Comments on: Tryna gonna to http://noncompositional.com/2005/08/tryna-gonna-to/ Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Russell http://noncompositional.com/2005/08/tryna-gonna-to/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Russell Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:24:47 +0000 http://www.noncompositional.com/?p=36#comment-30 <p>Ah, didn't consider the lack of a double n. "Trynna" looks like it should be pronounced with an /ɪ/. However, there were a few examples of "tryna" I found that were actually names, probably pronounced like "Trina."</p> <p>As a side note, if you haven't used the a lemmatized corpus (to search for these guys), the BNC lemmatizer (and probably the one that PropBank uses) lists "gon" and "wan" as wordforms of the lexemes <em>go</em> and <em>want</em>, and "na" as a form of <em>to</em>. Fun stuff.</p> Ah, didn’t consider the lack of a double n. “Trynna” looks like it should be pronounced with an /ɪ/. However, there were a few examples of “tryna” I found that were actually names, probably pronounced like “Trina.”

As a side note, if you haven’t used the a lemmatized corpus (to search for these guys), the BNC lemmatizer (and probably the one that PropBank uses) lists “gon” and “wan” as wordforms of the lexemes go and want, and “na” as a form of to. Fun stuff.

]]> By: polyglot conspiracy http://noncompositional.com/2005/08/tryna-gonna-to/comment-page-1/#comment-28 polyglot conspiracy Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:57 +0000 http://www.noncompositional.com/?p=36#comment-28 <p>"4orum" is hilarious. It's like the NYT headline that embarrassingly (at least, I was embarrassed for them) read "D8ting." Listen to what your numbers sound like, people!</p> <p>Part of "tryna" not being orthographically popular probably has to do with pronunciation issues. "Gonna" and "wanna" can pretty much only be pronounced one way: the double N means you would probably never say /o/ or /e/, or even /a/ or /æ/ (respectively). "Y", on the other hand, is tricky: Is it /trainə/ or /trinə/ or /trɪnə/ ? I guess it has to do with there being only one N + vowel, so the Y takes the /ai/ sound?</p> <p>Wait. Where's the double N in "tryna," BTW? "Trynna" gets some hits, but not as many as "tryna." I'm sending Mark Liberman an email right now. (No really, I am.)</p> <p>I'm guessing the paucity of "finna" also has to do with the fact that you could confuse it with meaning "find + a", as in "I'm gonna finna way." Or something.</p> “4orum” is hilarious. It’s like the NYT headline that embarrassingly (at least, I was embarrassed for them) read “D8ting.” Listen to what your numbers sound like, people!

Part of “tryna” not being orthographically popular probably has to do with pronunciation issues. “Gonna” and “wanna” can pretty much only be pronounced one way: the double N means you would probably never say /o/ or /e/, or even /a/ or /æ/ (respectively). “Y”, on the other hand, is tricky: Is it /trainə/ or /trinə/ or /trɪnə/ ? I guess it has to do with there being only one N + vowel, so the Y takes the /ai/ sound?

Wait. Where’s the double N in “tryna,” BTW? “Trynna” gets some hits, but not as many as “tryna.” I’m sending Mark Liberman an email right now. (No really, I am.)

I’m guessing the paucity of “finna” also has to do with the fact that you could confuse it with meaning “find + a”, as in “I’m gonna finna way.” Or something.

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