Fantasy writers versus the asterisk
Over the last few years, I’ve had many occasions to test my linguistic intuitions against the intuitions of the internet-as-indexed-by-Google. In particular, internet searches (and corpus searches in general) are very useful whenever confronted with a syntax (or semantics, or maybe even morphology) article that proclaims some bit of language to be ungrammatical. I suggest everyone do it at least once per article.
Now, sometimes you’ll look at a structure marked with a * and wonder, “could anyone ever say (write) something like that?” So you search in (say) Google, and you find about two dozen hits, most of them irrelevant. But a couple are good, and so you either hang your head in dismay or shout a cheer of, “ha! take that, false giver of *s!” And I’ve noticed something that may or may not actually be true overall, but somehow it seems right: more often than any other genres, science-fiction, fantasy, and fanfiction in general contain the aberrant innovative structures.
Unfortunately, I haven’t kept a record of these observations, but I can give one example. A search several months ago for “as have s/he done” revealed, as it does now, only a few dozen hits. The structure “as AUX SUBJ VERB” is claimed to be illicit according to at least one linguist (and I basically concur). An actually occurring instance is this sentence:
He speaks little to the folk on the road, as has he done to his companions.
I found it here, in a document that seems to be part of a larger fantasy work of fiction. A similar structure involving should instead of have again yielded few results (many irrelevant), but one happened to be from an Elf:
Bow before me and then will I answer to you, as should you do with respect of all the Kings of old.
Now, I will grant that these examples are plagued with a confounding factor: namely, the sort of archaic-sounding flavor that goes along with now-degraded subject-auxiliary inversion. I don’t recall if this exact structure was actually licit at some point in time, or if it is a sort of neo-archaism. (However, subj-aux-inv is historically very common following as in many other contexts (e.g., Unmov’d, as had He seen a Ghost, He gaz’d,). But regardless if the source is from various (pseudo-)historical documents or simply by being well-read or even of a certain fantasy/scifi disposition, the result seems to be the same: non-conventional authors on the internet hate syntacticians. At least, that’s my story for now.
I don’t think the reversal is ungrammatical — I’ve seen it a number of times, in literary contexts. The only thing about “as have s/he done” is that the aux doesn’t match the subj — should be “as has s/he done”, no? –Another amateur
Well, I’m willing to accept that if you have certain sorts of auxiliary verbs (like have, and maybe should) with the verb do, then it’s at least a little bit okay. But what’s really horrible is something like: he manages to eat five meals a day, as could I eat (if I wanted to gain weight). If you take out the eat, then everything is fine. If you replace the eat with a do, then it sounds marginal, with some sort of pseudo-literary affect. Probably has to do with the fact that do as a main verb has very little semantics (just “perform some action”).
Also, the “have” is in bold, meaning it’s to be taken as the form you’d see in the dictionary header (so it is a cover term for have/has/had/etc.).
Fantasy writers versus the asterisk…
nice…..